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Sissel ([personal profile] ghostricked) wrote in [community profile] thefoundation2020-04-18 09:20 pm
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Opinions without 3.1415 are just Onions (Week1 post trial)

After everything, the house seems almost too still and too mundane. At least as long as the doors to that room remain closed. One by one those covered in what was once their teammate are lead to the showers or change in silence. There is no warm meal waiting for them. No words of encouragement.

Life goes on, regardless.
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[personal profile] noneforall 2020-04-21 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
[There's just a huff of not-quite laughter from below; not quite openly mocking, but not entirely understanding either. There are so many people who are so easy to rile and also so easily fallen into ghost-appropriate despair around here, there really is no way to keep up with all of them.

It makes the group impressive in a dubious sort of way.

He kind of looks around at the junk heaps of maybe-could-have-been-Olympia and shakes his head.]

You're certainly not entirely right, but you're not entirely wrong, either. I have doubts about the Foundation's level of technology and the integrity of the backups, but that won't be solved by a half-destroyed frame or anything else we have on hand. Spilled milk, really.

But there's nothing saying there isn't a body out there somewhere that would be compatible. But of course, if neither body nor the contents are entirely the same... would you really call that "Olympia"?
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[personal profile] impyroverished 2020-04-22 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
[You can be certain Emil is susceptible to the miasma. His mental defenses are nil]

...no, right? Because it'd be like a different person. At most she'd be the second Olympia, not the same one.

[The good ol' Ship of Theseus, concept you can be certain Emil hasn't ever heard about]
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[personal profile] noneforall 2020-04-22 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
[Someone get this guy a mental barrier or at least like. A suggestion of psychic awareness??? It's not really going to be Subete, though, is he just here to poke fun...... There's a crisp noise as he claps once, twice. Not quite a golf clap, not quite an acknowledgment.]

Yes, and I'd say that's the best they've got at the moment.

[I had no idea what the Ship of Theseus was, TIL. Subete probably knows what it is because he is definitely more widely-read than me!! Also these types of canons truly love their esoteric philosophical knowledge.]

Olympia, Version 2.0. Would you still say it's just a matter of debating her personhood, or that perhaps we have a bigger problem on our hands?
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[personal profile] impyroverished 2020-04-22 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
[I thank the Zero Escape series for all the details about esoteric philosophy and pseudoscience]

We have a bigger problem. Even if Olympia can be recovered, the rest of us can't. There's no way the Foundation can just shove our brains into machines like they can with her, so if we die, we'll be buried and forgotten.

[Or...trapped as miasma ghosts, but that's a different problem altogether]
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[personal profile] noneforall 2020-04-26 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
[Sometimes (maybe all the time) it is truly the video games that teach us of life and life lessons!! And dead philosophers. And other such dead cultural concepts that are definitely not about death.]

At the very least, I'd imagine Olympia can be recovered without corruption.

We aren't machines, so we have all the disadvantages and few of the advantages there: it's debatable if we'll even approach burial given the corruption the SCP gets up to.

[No, he's definitely rolling it into the same problem. The big picture, and all. Is this reassuring yet, or is it just turning everything into the same Infinite Scream?]
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[personal profile] impyroverished 2020-04-26 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not good at being reassuring -- not that I asked you to be.

[Infinite Scream it is]
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[personal profile] noneforall 2020-04-27 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Haha. If I were trying to be reassuring...

[He makes a show of stroking his chin for a moment, mock-thoughtful, and then just shakes his head and gives up the ghost. Not literally yet, though! Infinite Scream for a little later.]

It would probably come out to about the same result? I wouldn't call myself an optimist.

Was there some other kind of reassurance you were looking for, apart from Olympia's personhood and immortality?
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[personal profile] impyroverished 2020-04-27 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even know at this point.

[Emil sighs]

You know, at home there's countries full of people who are very afraid of their souls getting lost before reaching the afterlife. Kind of like what can happen in this place, I guess. They had all these rituals to stop that from happening.

[Which...would they even work, supposing someone really did said rituals? Would the house overpower that?]